In Phaedo Socrates talks to his friends about pleasure, pain and fear, but he also talks about the soul of someone who finds joy and reason in the objects that only bring them joy. Socrates talks about the difference between love of objects and love of knowledge “For every pleasure and pain is a kind of nail that nails and nails duty to the body, and absorbs it and makes it believe that what is true is also related matters to the body they are true; and to be at one with the body and have the same pleasure she is obliged to have the same habits and manners, and will probably never be pure at her departure for the lower world, but is always saturated with the body; so that it soon sinks into another body and there sprouts and grows, and therefore has no part in the communion of the divine and the pure and simple.”(pg82). I believe that in this Socrates is saying that a life lived in the same habits and affairs is a life that binds you to your mortal body. For a philosopher it is different «Because the soul of the philosopher does not reason thus; she will not ask philosophy to free her so that, once freed, she can abandon herself again to the slavery of pleasure and pain, completing a work only to be undone again, weaving instead of unraveling her web of Penelope. (p.83)/ Here I believe that Socrates is saying that the soul of a philosopher does not remain tied to the mortal body because a philosopher finds reason both in the nails of pain and in those